July 28, 2006...3:23 am

Nicole’s Travel Tips for Vietnam Adoption – EDITED

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#1 Pack light
All the way around it’s just a good idea to pack light. We had families carrying 2 checked bags for each person, on top of their carry-ons, and they weren’t any better for it. Matt and I took one carry-on each, and then one carry-on-sized checked bag between the two of us…we liked not being high maintenance at the in-country airports. The bags that we actually took on the plane with us carried our clothes and our toiletries. We were sure to pack non-essentials in the bag that was checked, just in case it was lost.

#2 Don’t stress about packing the small stuff
You’ll basically be able to find anything in Vietnam. In the larger cities, there’s a mini-mart within walking distance of almost any 3-4-5 star hotel. On the list of do-not-pack is, formula, more than a day (or two’s) worth of diapers, water, etc. These things are cheap and readily available. It’s just going to be a hasstle when you’re getting in and out of the country.

#3 Coordinate with other families traveling with you
If you read the suggested packing list on most Adoption Doctor’s and agencies’ websites, you’ll often see a staggering list of medications and what-nots to bring. My suggestion: talk with the other families in your travel group. You’ll cut down on space and stress if you don’t pack everything under the sun. For example, before we were set to leave, I spoke with both mothers from the other families and found out that I was the only one bringing lice medication and scabies cream. That’s ok because both of those things are packaged in huge amounts so if another family needed one (or both) products, we could easily share. That way we didn’t all need to pack duplicates of things. (By the way, we didn’t need any meds for our little girl except the antibiotics, which we brought, and “Little Tummies” drops, which were borrowed from another family.)

#4 Shop around for fares and schedules
If we had blindly gone with the agent that our agency recommended then we would have been on a crappy schedule and paying $200 more per ticket. Shopping around is the best thing you can do before you travel.

#5 Pay for your tickets on a CC with rewards points/miles
If you get an adoption fare through your travel agent you won’t be getting any frequent flier miles. It’s a drug deal they have set up so that they can give you a lower fare without giving you any perks. It’s alot of miles you’ll be missing out on…really, it is. We signed up for an American Express Card for the sole purpose of getting a point for every dollar and a point for every 3 miles we fly. We’re going to end up with enough points for free flights to Vegas this fall. Totally worth it!

#6 Don’t bring a stroller
If your kid will be over 12 mo when you travel, don’t bring your own stroller. They’re a hasstle to bring through the airports without a child and you can buy nice ones in Vietnam for under $30. That way you’re not lugging one around when you don’t need it. On the same note, don’t spent a huge amount on a baby carrier before your baby comes home. Out of 4 babies, only 1 would actually allow her mom to wear a sling/carrier; 2 loved the stroller (including our little one), and one would only let her mom carry her.

#7 Don’t bring travelers cheques
We had one travel companion in our group that brought some traveler’s cheques and had a hard time getting anyone to cash them. At one hotel they wouldn’t take them because the bank made her date them when she bought them, and another hotel had her sign them but afterwards said that their computer wouldn’t take them. She ended up not being able to use any of them.

#8 Be prepared to do your own laundry
Laundry at the hotels is really expensive. Our last hotel charged $2 per t-shirt! Some times your in-country helpers will have local hook-ups that will do wash for as low as 3 pieces for $1 but it might not be the case in every city. We ended up handwashing the clothes that we really needed in Hanoi but we didn’t check to make sure that we had opening windows (which we didn’t) so the clothes tried to drip-dry in the bathroom but they ended up smelling like they were left in the washing machine for days. You know, that moldy smell that just makes you wanna gag?! I suggest that you bring a couple of the individually wrapped liquid detergent packets that you find at laundry mats, and always check to make sure that your windows open before getting everything you have wet. :-)

#9 If you want to keep in touch, bring your own laptop
As I’ve complained about before, internet at the better hotels is usually $4 for 30 minutes. On the computer for 15 minutes, it’s $4. On the computer for 35 minutes, it’s $8. It’s a total rip-off. And, even if you find a hotel that has internet for free, you have to compete on a regular basis for a computer with high-schoolers checking their myspace and chatting with friends. It can be a pain in the butt. Just bring your own. Some hotels have wireless in every room and others have wires in the room. It’s true that there are internet cafe’s on almost every block but with a new baby in tow, the last thing you’ll want to do is venture out of the hotel in the heat to sit in an internet cafe for an hour.

#10 Bring antibiotics, for yourself and the baby
Matt and I didn’t need our antibiotics at all but it was the only medicine we brought that she really needed. I’m sure it saved us a costly and time consuming trip to the SOS clinic.

#11 Look into a cheap intl. cell phone or calling cards
We never ended up finding a place to buy phone card while we were there. Most of the places that sold things that looked like calling cards were actually internet time cards. It was almost 7 days into travel that we actually got to call home to talk to Diesel, and even then we had to bite the bullet and call from the hotel room without any cards. All-in-all, I think we spent $75-100 calling home, and we only made about 6 calls in 2.5 weeks. Not as much as I hoped.

#12 Bring your USB cord
While it is true that you can get your memory card burned onto a disc really cheapy in Vietnam, it’s just like the internet cafe’s, not convenient. Hotel’s don’t have card readers…..unless you being your own laptop and it does. :-)

#13 Bring your own hair dryer
If your hair is longer than the bottom of your ears and you blowdry it on a regular basis, do yourself a favor and bring your own hair dryer. The hotels have them in the rooms but I dried my hair twice and got it caught in the back of the dryer both times. I had to rip it out of the fan…it sucked. Invest in a hairdryer that has a foldable handle so it doesn’t take up any extra space in your luggage.

#14 When it comes to your spending money, 5’s and 10’s will be more useful than 1’s
There will be a rare time shopping when you will spend under $5. Most places have things so cheap that you’ll buy more than one item. Thinking that we would need alot of ones, we brought $800 in 1’s, $400 in 5’s, and $400 in 10’s. I wish we would have brought more 5’s and 10’s and less 1’s. We took a total of $2000 spending money but brought home $500 in 1’s.

#15 Be prepared for schedule changes
One of the best things you can do for your sanity is go to Vietnam with an open mind. You’re trying to coordinate things with two governments. While their governing styles may be very different, their redtape is alot of the same BS. Appt’s will change. 9 times out of 10 you’re going to get everything done in the allotted time, but it might not look like the schedule you had in mind before you traveled. Don’t let it stress you out too bad. It’s just the way things work.

#16 Read everything you can on attachment no matter how old your kid is
I’m glad I did.

#17 Be prepared for questions, alot of them!
The Vietnamese people as a group, are open to asking alot of questions about the adoption process. I don’t think I can even remember how many times I was asked how much she cost. The best thing to do is to not let these things get to you. They’re not familiar with the process so just explain it to them. They’re sincerely interested in what it takes (most of the time) so taking a few minutes to talk with them will really make them appreciate you more.

#18 Get kids over 12mo a seat of their own on the plane
If our little one didn’t have her own seat on the plane ride home, things would have been a mess. While it’s nice that your 18 mo doesn’t need a seat, it will save you some agony just to fork out the extra $500 to make your last plane ride easier. Even if your kid won’t let you put them down, at least you can lift up the armrest and lay over 2 seats instead of cramming both of you into 1 seat. Coach seating is getting smaller and smaller it seems (or maybe I’m just getting bigger and bigger…)

#19 Remember, you can always buy luggage in Vietnam
While we only entered the country with 3 pieces of luggage, we left with 4. We bought a great suitcase at an international mall for $20. It was worth it and we just packed all our shopping goodies in it for the ride home. 95% of what we bought made it home safe and we didn’t have to lug it around for our whole trip.

#20 Give yourself at least a 3 hour layover at your first stop back in the US
Our first stop back in the US was at LAX. Great airport but it’s huge! Their international wing is removed from their domestic wing, which means, if you have another flight to catch from LA to home, then you’re going to have to get off the plane, go through 2 customs lines (one for you and one for the baby), collect your baggage, treck to the domestic wing, check in with your domestic carrier, recheck your bags, and go through security all over again. It’s not as bad as it sounds but it’s really time consuming. We ended up with 3 hours and it was just the right amount of time. We arrived at our gate from LAX to PDX with just 30 minutes to spare. Any less and we would have missed our flight. I don’t know about other airports but unless you’ve arrived internationally at the airport before and know the procedure, I would give at least 3 hours where ever you fly into. Just to be on the safe side.

#21 Remember, this is a trip of a lifetime!
The unexpected is going to happen; things are going to cost more and bumps are going to occur, you just have to remind yourself that this is a once in a lifetime trip and you’ll never experience anything quite like it again. Enjoy it for what it is.

#22 Clothes: Not a big deal
Tank tops, shorts, halter tops, tattoos: no problem. Of course when you’re giving interviews with either government, or visiting the orphanage, you want to be dress in something a little more appropriate, but when you’re just kicking around the hotel, sightseeing, or touring the city, dress in whatever is comfortable. I spent most of my time in a tank top and gauchos, while other families lived in their favorite pair of shorts and a t-shirt. It’s up to you. Of course there is a line of what’s appropriate…..and it’s not a thin line, so decide for yourself.

#23 Gifts
We brought gifts for the 11 orphanage workers, government officials at the G&R, as well as the G&R staff. We brought, 5 necklaces, 4 portable desk fans, and 10 sets of hair clips. We gave the first two items for the G&R officials and their staff. The hair clips were originally supposed to go to the orphanage staff but we never ended up giving them over. Instead, all the families pooled together over $110 for the nannies to split. That way our facilitator could make sure that all the nannies got an even take. It’s an extra weeks salary, which I’m sure they could use more than some hair clips.

#24 Sightseeing, not for everyone
Matt and I had to decide early on in the trip which of us would go sightseeing and which of us would stay with the baby. Matt got the privilege. With the baby being sick and me being super emotional, there was no room for us on excursions. Matt took my camera and had a good time, while I stayed behind and tried to make baby feel more comfortable. It would be a good idea, if you’re traveling with your spouse, to have this conversation before you leave. If you wait until the time comes and you’re on the spot, one of you might feel angry that your getting “left behind” or something like that.

#25 Not all hotels are created equal
While we were waiting for our first INS interview we happened to run into some people we knew from online communities. They were staying at a hotel not far from ours and were having a very, very rough trip that was lasting 3 times longer than expected. While their hotel seemed to be on the nicer end of things, they were missing an important basic: Their hotel was lack of a pool! Other important ammenities include English speaking TV channels and decent room service. While you might say to yourself, “who needs those things while your in a country like Vietnam?” Well normally I might agree with you but with temperatures in Ha Noi, DaNang, and HoChiMinh City ranging between 80-100 degrees (with almost 100% humidity) while we were there, going outside with a cranky baby, or an upset stomach, or almost just in general, doesn’t sound like a good idea most of the time. Without English-speaking TV to keep you sane, a pool to keep you cool, and decent food to keep you strong, you’re going to be screwed. The really crappy thing is that they were paying just as much for their room as we were. So, the moral is, if you’re stuck booking your own hotels, do alot of research because it does matter. And, if your with an agency that is booking your hotels for you, make sure you know what hotels your staying at before you go, so that you can make adjustments to your packing list based on hotel amenities. (ie. you might want to bring a portable DVD player and some DVDs, or it might make the argument stronger for you to bring your laptop; you also might want to stock up on your favorite treats, because if you’re down, peanut M&Ms will always make you feel better.) (If you want hotel recommendations, email me and I’ll let you know what I thought of the hotels we stayed at, or if I have an overwhelming request, I’ll post it here. We were at hotels in HaNoi, DaNang, HoiAn, and HoChiMinh City.)

14 Comments

  • Wow, Nicole, thanks for sharing all this detail! What fantastic info!!!! I know this will be a HUGE help to all of us traveling after you :-)

  • Thanks for all the good advice Nicole – hope I can use it someday. :-}

  • Thanks Nicole! That was so sweet of you to take the time to do. We all appreciate it.

  • These tips are great! Thanks so much Nicole!

  • Nicole, this is wonderful! Good job!

    Melissa

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    Nicole,
    Thanks for the info on the hairdryer. We took duct tape to China. We used it to repair a suitcase that the zipper broke on, just a few hours before we were leaving.
    Mary

  • Nicole,

    Thank you for the travel advice, I hope to use it soon.

    Jody

  • Thank you so much for the advice! It will be very helpful for many of us going to Vietnam in the future! Question for you…how did the “gifts” go over that you brought to the orphanage? Any suggestions on that?

  • Wow, what a great list…it really helps to read from someone who has recently been there. Saving to my favorites so I can be sure to check it again when my time comes. Thank you!

  • Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. It is- by far- the BEST advice I have read to date. There are several things we will do differently because of your list. (We’re travelling August 8)

  • Nicole,

    Thank you so much for this list. We are hoping to pick up our daughter from Danang in September and this is very valuable information. I have so many questions. You did not say anything about what to wear, is it appropriate to wear tank tops and short for womens? What about men, shorst OK? Did you have time to do a lot of site seeing in country?
    I guess I better stop for now.
    Thanks Nicole. Hope you baby is adjusting well.
    Valerie

  • Joel Conrad Bechtolt

    (Psst: There’s no “t” in hassle! just telling you as a friend!)

  • Thank you so much for this information. We’re still waiting on a referral and our agency won’t give us any “heads-up” on travel planning until we receive a referral. This info is extremely helpful as we try to prepare for the upcoming travel!

    Melissa

  • Thanks so much for this great list, Nicole!! It is great to see a down to earth list from someone who has been there recently.

    Kerry


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